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What Makes a Card Balanced?
Not the official definition of balance, just my opinion.
I think it is not good to measure a card balance by use rate without comparison to the card’s alternatives.
E.g. if Zap is the only small spell in the game, even with a usage way over 50%, it doesn’t mean the spell is OP. It is only overused because there is no alternative.
When looking at usage rates, I think it only make sense when reviewing in a group of similar cards. E.g. win condition, range, splash, mini tank, tank killer, cycle, swarm, small spell, big spell, spawner, siege.
Then perform a t-test or chi-square test with the usage stats within the group to see if there is any card that has significantly different usage rate.
It can also apply to win rates. But both overall win rate and comparison with similar cards are important.
I think the statistics part is basic. The difficult part is how to balance and how to handle players’ expectations.
I see. It might be accurate, but it's a bit more complicated to do.
Rum Ham's general policy for balanced cards is, as you said, 9% UR, 45-55% WR. However, there are certain "niche" cards that have lower use rates but higher win rates. Those imply cards that require certain synergies to be viable (like night witch or sparky) or have a higher skill floor or both. Those would be considered balanced.
I personally don't think use rates and win rates should be the end all be all. If a card is slightly above or slightly below the standards it's not terribly unbalanced. When it gets too high or too low is when balance needs to be done (adjust the most OP and most UP, leave the slightly OP or UP cards alone because even small changes could break or kill the card).
Also remember that RoyaleAPI does not tell the full story, only Supercell has the "true" stats. Generally, no card has a 60% or more win rate or less than 30% win rate. I'd say 14-days is a better indicator than 1-day though
So basically:
1. High Win Rate + High Use Rate = Fully OP, need nerf.
2. High Win Rate + Normal Use Rate = Partially OP, need to buff counters (that are partially UP) or meta shift.
3. High Win Rate + Low Use Rate = Powerful, but bottlenecked by card selection pool, need more variety of cards (more synergy) or meta shift.
4. Normal Win Rate + High Use Rate = No good alternatives for the card, need more variety of cards or deeper observations before doing some balancing.
5. Normal Win Rate + Normal Use Rate = Balanced in the current meta.
6. Normal Win Rate + Low Use Rate = High skill cap card, or the card is overshadowed by its alternatives. Need deeper observations before doing some balancing.
7. Low Win Rate + High Use Rate = The card is overhyped (this is rare and only occurs during the introduction and post-buff of a card). Need some time to get used to the card/buff. There is a chance that the buff is not enough.
8. Low Win Rate + Normal Use Rate = Partially UP, need to nerf counters (that are partially OP) or meta shift.
9. Low Win Rate + Low Use Rate = Fully UP, need buff
With High: more than 55% WR or 10% UR and Low: less than 45% WR or 8% UR.
What do you think?
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Spell Combinations
Freeze: 95
- Skeletons 67
- Bats 67
- Skeleton Army 67
- Fire Spirits 91
Tornado: 140
Zap: 159
Giant Snowball: 159
- Spear Goblins 110
Freeze + Tornado: 235
Log: 240
Barbarian Barrel: 243
- Goblins 167
- Ice Spirit 190
- Shield of Guards/Dark Prince/Royal Recruits 199
- Dart Goblin 216
- Princess 216
Arrows: 243
- Minions 190
- Minion Horde 190
Freeze + Zap: 254
- Archers 252
Tornado + Zap: 299
Tornado + Giant Snowball: 299
- Wall Breaks 275
Zap + Giant Snowball: 318
Freeze + Log: 335
Freeze + Arrows: 338
Freeze + Barbarian Barrel: 338
Tornado + Log: 380
Tornado + Arrows: 383
Tornado + Barbarian Barrel: 383
Zap + Log: 399
Giant Snowball + Log: 399
Zap + Arrows: 402
Giant Snowball + Arrows: 402
Zap + Barbarian Barrel: 402
Giant Snowball + Barbarian Barrel: 402
- Bomber 311
Log + Arrows: 483
Log + Barbarian Barrel: 483
Arrows + Barbarian Barrel: 486
- Tombstone 422
- Zappies 440
- Royal Recruits without shield 440
Fireball: 572
- Magic Archer 490
- Flying Machine 510
- Barbarians 550
Poison: 600
Freeze + Fireball: 667
- Guards 90
- Ice Wizard 590
- Electro Wizard 590
- 3 Musketeers 598
- Musketeer 598
- Wizard 598
Freeze + Poison: 695
- Skeleton Barrel 636
- Mega Minion 695
- Royal Hog 695
Tornado + Fireball: 712
- Hunter 696
Zap + Fireball: 731
Giant Snowball + Fireball: 731
Tornado + Poison: 740
- Shield of Cannon Cart 731
- Cannon Cart without shield 731
Zap + Poison: 759
Giant Snowball + Poison: 759
- Cannon 742
- Night Witch 750
- Battle Ram 756
Log + Fireball: 812
Arrows + Fireball: 815
Barbarian Barrel + Fireball: 815
Log + Poison: 840
Arrows + Poison: 843
Barbarian Barrel + Poison: 843
Lightning: 877
- Bandit 780
- Witch 787
Arrows + Fireball: 815
Arrows + Poison: 843
Lightning: 877
- Electro Dragon 790
Freeze + Lightning: 972
- Elixir Collector 888
- Tesla 954
- Elite Barbarians 970
Tornado + Lightning: 1017
- Ice Golem 994
- Royal Ghost 1000
- Miner 1000
- Furnace 1003
- Executioner 1010
Zap + Lightning: 1036
Giant Snowball + Lightning: 1036
- Dark Prince without shield 1030
Log + Lightning: 1117
Arrows + Lightning: 1120
Barbarian Barrel + Lightning: 1120
- Lumberjack 1060
Arrows + Lightning: 1120
- Baby Dragon 1064
- Inferno Dragon 1070
Fireball + Poison: 1172
- Bomb Tower 1126
- Mini PEKKA 1129
Rocket: 1232
- Sparky 1200
- Mortar 1219
Freeze + Rocket: 1327
- Goblin Hut 1293
Tornado + Rocket: 1372
- Same as just Rocket
Zap + Rocket: 1391
Giant Snowball + Rocket: 1391
- Knight 1382
- XBow 1383
Fireball + Lightning: 1449
- Balloon 1396
- Hog Rider 1408
Log + Rocket: 1472
Arrows + Rocket: 1475
Barbarian Barrel + Rocket: 1475
Poison + Lightning: 1477
- Inferno Tower 1452
- Ram Rider 1461
Fireball + Rocket: 1804
Poison + Rocket: 1832
Lightning + Rocket: 2109
- Bowler 1596
- Prince 1615
- Valkyrie 1657
- Barbarian Hut 1804
Does not die to spells:
Royal Giant 2544
Giant Goblin 2616
Giant Skeleton 2793
Lava Hound 3150
Giant 3275
Mega Knight 3300
PEKKA 3458
Golem 4256
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Spell Combinations
Here I am going to list all spell combos. All of them are going to be double spells and there are no triple spells here. Also all Offensive, Semi Spawner and Semi Support spells are included. I will also have the individual spells themselves to compare them
I will list them from lowest damage to highest.
Freeze: 95
Tornado: 140
Zap: 159
Giant Snowball: 159
Freeze + Tornado: 235
Log: 240
Arrows: 243
Barbarian Barrel: 243
Freeze + Zap: 254
Tornado + Zap: 299
Tornado + Giant Snowball: 299
Zap + Giant Snowball: 318
Freeze + Log: 335
Freeze + Arrows: 338
Freeze + Barbarian Barrel: 338
Tornado + Log: 380
Tornado + Arrows: 383
Tornado + Barbarian Barrel: 383
Zap + Log: 399
Giant Snowball + Log: 399
Zap + Arrows: 402
Giant Snowball + Arrows: 402
Zap + Barbarian Barrel: 402
Giant Snowball + Barbarian Barrel: 402
Log + Arrows: 483
Log + Barbarian Barrel: 483
Arrows + Barbarian Barrel: 486
Fireball: 572
Poison: 600
Freeze + Fireball: 667
Freeze + Poison: 695
Tornado + Fireball: 712
Zap + Fireball: 731
Giant Snowball + Fireball: 731
Tornado + Poison: 740
Zap + Poison: 759
Giant Snowball + Poison: 759
Log + Fireball: 812
Arrows + Fireball: 815
Barbarian Barrel + Fireball: 815
Log + Poison: 840
Arrows + Poison: 843
Barbarian Barrel + Poison: 843
Lightning: 877
Freeze + Lightning: 972
Tornado + Lightning: 1017
Zap + Lightning: 1036
Giant Snowball + Lightning: 1036
Log + Lightning: 1117
Arrows + Lightning: 1120
Barbarian Barrel + Lightning: 1120
Fireball + Poison: 1172
Rocket: 1232
Freeze + Rocket: 1327
Tornado + Rocket: 1372
Zap + Rocket: 1391
Giant Snowball + Rocket: 1391
Fireball + Lightning: 1449
Log + Rocket: 1472
Arrows + Rocket: 1475
Barbarian Barrel + Rocket: 1475
Poison + Lightning: 1477
Fireball + Rocket: 1804
Poison + Rocket: 1832
Lightning + Rocket: 2109
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Spell Combinations
Freeze: 95
- Skeletons 67
- Bats 67
- Skeleton Army 67
- Fire Spirits 91
Tornado: 140
Zap: 159
Giant Snowball: 159
- Spear Goblins 110
Freeze + Tornado: 235
Log: 240
Barbarian Barrel: 243
- Goblins 167
- Ice Spirit 190
- Shield of Guards/Dark Prince/Royal Recruits 199
- Dart Goblin 216
- Princess 216
Arrows: 243
- Minions 190
- Minion Horde 190
Freeze + Zap: 254
- Archers 252
Tornado + Zap: 299
Tornado + Giant Snowball: 299
- Wall Breaks 275
Zap + Giant Snowball: 318
Freeze + Log: 335
Freeze + Arrows: 338
Freeze + Barbarian Barrel: 338
Tornado + Log: 380
Tornado + Arrows: 383
Tornado + Barbarian Barrel: 383
Zap + Log: 399
Giant Snowball + Log: 399
Zap + Arrows: 402
Giant Snowball + Arrows: 402
Zap + Barbarian Barrel: 402
Giant Snowball + Barbarian Barrel: 402
- Bomber 311
Log + Arrows: 483
Log + Barbarian Barrel: 483
Arrows + Barbarian Barrel: 486
- Tombstone 422
- Zappies 440
- Royal Recruits without shield 440
Fireball: 572
- Magic Archer 490
- Flying Machine 510
- Barbarians 550
Poison: 600
Freeze + Fireball: 667
- Guards 90
- Ice Wizard 590
- Electro Wizard 590
- 3 Musketeers 598
- Musketeer 598
- Wizard 598
Freeze + Poison: 695
- Skeleton Barrel 636
- Mega Minion 695
- Royal Hog 695
Tornado + Fireball: 712
- Hunter 696
Zap + Fireball: 731
Giant Snowball + Fireball: 731
Tornado + Poison: 740
- Shield of Cannon Cart 731
- Cannon Cart without shield 731
Zap + Poison: 759
Giant Snowball + Poison: 759
- Cannon 742
- Night Witch 750
- Battle Ram 756
Log + Fireball: 812
Arrows + Fireball: 815
Barbarian Barrel + Fireball: 815
Log + Poison: 840
Arrows + Poison: 843
Barbarian Barrel + Poison: 843
Lightning: 877
- Bandit 780
- Witch 787
Arrows + Fireball: 815
Arrows + Poison: 843
Lightning: 877
- Electro Dragon 790
Freeze + Lightning: 972
- Elixir Collector 888
- Tesla 954
- Elite Barbarians 970
Tornado + Lightning: 1017
- Ice Golem 994
- Royal Ghost 1000
- Miner 1000
- Furnace 1003
- Executioner 1010
Zap + Lightning: 1036
Giant Snowball + Lightning: 1036
- Dark Prince without shield 1030
Log + Lightning: 1117
Arrows + Lightning: 1120
Barbarian Barrel + Lightning: 1120
- Lumberjack 1060
Arrows + Lightning: 1120
- Baby Dragon 1064
- Inferno Dragon 1070
Fireball + Poison: 1172
- Bomb Tower 1126
- Mini PEKKA 1129
Rocket: 1232
- Sparky 1200
- Mortar 1219
Freeze + Rocket: 1327
- Goblin Hut 1293
Tornado + Rocket: 1372
- Same as just Rocket
Zap + Rocket: 1391
Giant Snowball + Rocket: 1391
- Knight 1382
- XBow 1383
Fireball + Lightning: 1449
- Balloon 1396
- Hog Rider 1408
Log + Rocket: 1472
Arrows + Rocket: 1475
Barbarian Barrel + Rocket: 1475
Poison + Lightning: 1477
- Inferno Tower 1452
- Ram Rider 1461
Fireball + Rocket: 1804
Poison + Rocket: 1832
Lightning + Rocket: 2109
- Bowler 1596
- Prince 1615
- Valkyrie 1657
- Barbarian Hut 1804
Does not die to spells:
Royal Giant 2544
Giant Goblin 2616
Giant Skeleton 2793
Lava Hound 3150
Giant 3275
Mega Knight 3300
PEKKA 3458
Golem 4256
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Donations with less clicks
I can only donate one card per request so it does not affect me at all.
But I mean why this should not be added? It should and it would help the game rather than harm it.
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Donations with less clicks
Yeah I agree, clicking that much is pointless, and only donating less than 8 doesn't serve a purpose either. Who wouldn't want to get lvl 13 king tower faster? -
Donations with less clicks
I Never thought about that. But I think this could really be useful -
Donations with less clicks
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Donations with less clicks
I'm not 100% sure but can you press and hold on one donation until the eight cards are donated? -
Weekly Discussion - The Magic Archer
The Princess in Beatdown and Siege. I found him pretty balanced, but i get the reason his underused. There are 2 factors of why he's underused:
1. Current META
The Current META is better off without MA, example: Hut Control plays better with Zappies as a Bait and defensive unit since they are better at two lane control and they stun Princes (both Princes, which are very used rn).
2. High skill cap card
As @micsfyuen said above, it's hard to master MA especially in the part of timing and placement. MA's linear attack is hard to predict and control. Sometimes it hits all the targets, sometimes it doesn't. Unlike previous cards such as MK and Ghost, they are much more understandable and controlable. Which make them easier to accept to the META.
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